diff --git a/Cargo.lock b/Cargo.lock
index 0c5f110..741ef3a 100644
--- a/Cargo.lock
+++ b/Cargo.lock
@@ -249,7 +249,7 @@ checksum = "bef38d45163c2f1dde094a7dfd33ccf595c92905c8f8f4fdc18d06fb1037718a"
 [[package]]
 name = "bolt-derive"
 version = "0.2.0"
-source = "git+https://gitlab.com/evanfeenstra1/validating-lightning-signer.git?rev=dbaeb29b51f399ce993923cca3ef218b2029cd11#dbaeb29b51f399ce993923cca3ef218b2029cd11"
+source = "git+https://gitlab.com/lightning-signer/validating-lightning-signer.git?rev=d7303c26a93d95dc09eb403a221f885b954883ed#d7303c26a93d95dc09eb403a221f885b954883ed"
 dependencies = [
  "proc-macro2",
  "quote",
@@ -818,8 +818,8 @@ dependencies = [
 
 [[package]]
 name = "fsdb"
-version = "0.1.11"
-source = "git+https://github.com/Evanfeenstra/fsdb.git?rev=78e174941ea0a373c2bb0ef518317b40ac80abf9#78e174941ea0a373c2bb0ef518317b40ac80abf9"
+version = "0.1.15"
+source = "git+https://github.com/Evanfeenstra/fsdb.git?rev=13f66653ec3c14280fc8ab330108c710c1df3006#13f66653ec3c14280fc8ab330108c710c1df3006"
 dependencies = [
  "rmp-serde",
  "serde",
@@ -1219,7 +1219,7 @@ checksum = "b06a4cde4c0f271a446782e3eff8de789548ce57dbc8eca9292c27f4a42004b4"
 [[package]]
 name = "lss-connector"
 version = "0.1.0"
-source = "git+https://github.com/stakwork/sphinx-rs.git?rev=0d5c40f4087adde7e32e789a88900c5c9ba3b5ab#0d5c40f4087adde7e32e789a88900c5c9ba3b5ab"
+source = "git+https://github.com/stakwork/sphinx-rs.git?rev=b6352712939dfdb1fd81cdd410f902744d64e095#b6352712939dfdb1fd81cdd410f902744d64e095"
 dependencies = [
  "anyhow",
  "log",
@@ -1591,7 +1591,7 @@ dependencies = [
 [[package]]
 name = "rmp-utils"
 version = "0.1.0"
-source = "git+https://github.com/stakwork/sphinx-rs.git?rev=0d5c40f4087adde7e32e789a88900c5c9ba3b5ab#0d5c40f4087adde7e32e789a88900c5c9ba3b5ab"
+source = "git+https://github.com/stakwork/sphinx-rs.git?rev=b6352712939dfdb1fd81cdd410f902744d64e095#b6352712939dfdb1fd81cdd410f902744d64e095"
 dependencies = [
  "anyhow",
  "log",
@@ -1798,7 +1798,7 @@ dependencies = [
 [[package]]
 name = "sphinx-auther"
 version = "0.1.12"
-source = "git+https://github.com/stakwork/sphinx-rs.git?rev=0d5c40f4087adde7e32e789a88900c5c9ba3b5ab#0d5c40f4087adde7e32e789a88900c5c9ba3b5ab"
+source = "git+https://github.com/stakwork/sphinx-rs.git?rev=b6352712939dfdb1fd81cdd410f902744d64e095#b6352712939dfdb1fd81cdd410f902744d64e095"
 dependencies = [
  "anyhow",
  "base64 0.21.2",
@@ -1810,7 +1810,7 @@ dependencies = [
 [[package]]
 name = "sphinx-crypter"
 version = "0.1.0"
-source = "git+https://github.com/stakwork/sphinx-rs.git?rev=0d5c40f4087adde7e32e789a88900c5c9ba3b5ab#0d5c40f4087adde7e32e789a88900c5c9ba3b5ab"
+source = "git+https://github.com/stakwork/sphinx-rs.git?rev=b6352712939dfdb1fd81cdd410f902744d64e095#b6352712939dfdb1fd81cdd410f902744d64e095"
 dependencies = [
  "anyhow",
  "chacha20poly1305",
@@ -1821,7 +1821,7 @@ dependencies = [
 [[package]]
 name = "sphinx-glyph"
 version = "0.1.2"
-source = "git+https://github.com/stakwork/sphinx-rs.git?rev=0d5c40f4087adde7e32e789a88900c5c9ba3b5ab#0d5c40f4087adde7e32e789a88900c5c9ba3b5ab"
+source = "git+https://github.com/stakwork/sphinx-rs.git?rev=b6352712939dfdb1fd81cdd410f902744d64e095#b6352712939dfdb1fd81cdd410f902744d64e095"
 dependencies = [
  "anyhow",
  "hex",
@@ -1872,7 +1872,7 @@ dependencies = [
 [[package]]
 name = "sphinx-signer"
 version = "0.1.0"
-source = "git+https://github.com/stakwork/sphinx-rs.git?rev=0d5c40f4087adde7e32e789a88900c5c9ba3b5ab#0d5c40f4087adde7e32e789a88900c5c9ba3b5ab"
+source = "git+https://github.com/stakwork/sphinx-rs.git?rev=b6352712939dfdb1fd81cdd410f902744d64e095#b6352712939dfdb1fd81cdd410f902744d64e095"
 dependencies = [
  "anyhow",
  "bip39",
@@ -2154,7 +2154,7 @@ checksum = "49874b5167b65d7193b8aba1567f5c7d93d001cafc34600cee003eda787e483f"
 [[package]]
 name = "vls-core"
 version = "0.10.0"
-source = "git+https://gitlab.com/evanfeenstra1/validating-lightning-signer.git?rev=dbaeb29b51f399ce993923cca3ef218b2029cd11#dbaeb29b51f399ce993923cca3ef218b2029cd11"
+source = "git+https://gitlab.com/lightning-signer/validating-lightning-signer.git?rev=d7303c26a93d95dc09eb403a221f885b954883ed#d7303c26a93d95dc09eb403a221f885b954883ed"
 dependencies = [
  "anyhow",
  "bitcoin",
@@ -2178,7 +2178,7 @@ dependencies = [
 [[package]]
 name = "vls-persist"
 version = "0.10.0"
-source = "git+https://gitlab.com/evanfeenstra1/validating-lightning-signer.git?rev=dbaeb29b51f399ce993923cca3ef218b2029cd11#dbaeb29b51f399ce993923cca3ef218b2029cd11"
+source = "git+https://gitlab.com/lightning-signer/validating-lightning-signer.git?rev=d7303c26a93d95dc09eb403a221f885b954883ed#d7303c26a93d95dc09eb403a221f885b954883ed"
 dependencies = [
  "hex",
  "log",
@@ -2191,7 +2191,7 @@ dependencies = [
 [[package]]
 name = "vls-protocol"
 version = "0.10.0"
-source = "git+https://gitlab.com/evanfeenstra1/validating-lightning-signer.git?rev=dbaeb29b51f399ce993923cca3ef218b2029cd11#dbaeb29b51f399ce993923cca3ef218b2029cd11"
+source = "git+https://gitlab.com/lightning-signer/validating-lightning-signer.git?rev=d7303c26a93d95dc09eb403a221f885b954883ed#d7303c26a93d95dc09eb403a221f885b954883ed"
 dependencies = [
  "as-any",
  "bitcoin-consensus-derive",
@@ -2204,7 +2204,7 @@ dependencies = [
 [[package]]
 name = "vls-protocol-signer"
 version = "0.10.0"
-source = "git+https://gitlab.com/evanfeenstra1/validating-lightning-signer.git?rev=dbaeb29b51f399ce993923cca3ef218b2029cd11#dbaeb29b51f399ce993923cca3ef218b2029cd11"
+source = "git+https://gitlab.com/lightning-signer/validating-lightning-signer.git?rev=d7303c26a93d95dc09eb403a221f885b954883ed#d7303c26a93d95dc09eb403a221f885b954883ed"
 dependencies = [
  "bit-vec",
  "log",
diff --git a/sphinx-key/Cargo.toml b/sphinx-key/Cargo.toml
index 1734f9e..f156398 100644
--- a/sphinx-key/Cargo.toml
+++ b/sphinx-key/Cargo.toml
@@ -19,11 +19,11 @@ serde_json       = { version = "1.0.81", default-features = false }
 serde_urlencoded = "0.7.1"
 url              = "2"
 
-lss-connector  = { git = "https://github.com/stakwork/sphinx-rs.git", default-features = false, rev = "0d5c40f4087adde7e32e789a88900c5c9ba3b5ab" }
+lss-connector  = { git = "https://github.com/stakwork/sphinx-rs.git", default-features = false, rev = "b6352712939dfdb1fd81cdd410f902744d64e095" }
 # lss-connector  = { path = "../../sphinx-rs/lss-connector", default-features = false }
-sphinx-crypter = { git = "https://github.com/stakwork/sphinx-rs.git", rev = "0d5c40f4087adde7e32e789a88900c5c9ba3b5ab" }
+sphinx-crypter = { git = "https://github.com/stakwork/sphinx-rs.git", rev = "b6352712939dfdb1fd81cdd410f902744d64e095" }
 # sphinx-crypter  = { path = "../../sphinx-rs/crypter" }
-sphinx-signer  = { git = "https://github.com/stakwork/sphinx-rs.git", optional = true, rev = "0d5c40f4087adde7e32e789a88900c5c9ba3b5ab" }
+sphinx-signer  = { git = "https://github.com/stakwork/sphinx-rs.git", optional = true, rev = "b6352712939dfdb1fd81cdd410f902744d64e095" }
 # sphinx-signer  = { path = "../../sphinx-rs/signer", optional = true }
 
 anyhow.workspace       = true
diff --git a/sphinx-key/src/core/events.rs b/sphinx-key/src/core/events.rs
index 4fc694d..7a87884 100644
--- a/sphinx-key/src/core/events.rs
+++ b/sphinx-key/src/core/events.rs
@@ -11,8 +11,8 @@ use lss_connector::secp256k1::PublicKey;
 use sphinx_signer::approver::SphinxApprover;
 use sphinx_signer::lightning_signer::bitcoin::Network;
 //use sphinx_signer::lightning_signer::persist::DummyPersister;
+use sphinx_signer::kvv::{CloudKVVStore, FsKVVStore};
 use sphinx_signer::lightning_signer::persist::Persist;
-use sphinx_signer::persist::{BackupPersister, FsPersister, ThreadMemoPersister};
 use sphinx_signer::root::VlsHandlerError;
 use sphinx_signer::sphinx_glyph as glyph;
 use sphinx_signer::{self, RootHandler};
@@ -99,25 +99,30 @@ pub fn make_event_loop(
         }
     }
 
-    // create the fs persister
-    // 8 character max file names
-    // let persister: Arc<dyn Persist> = Arc::new(FsPersister::new(&ROOT_STORE, Some(8)));
-    // let persister = Arc::new(ThreadMemoPersister {});
+    let kvv_store = FsKVVStore::new(&ROOT_STORE, Some(8)).0;
+    let fs_persister = CloudKVVStore::new(kvv_store);
 
-    //let sd_persister = DummyPersister {};
-    //let initial_allowlist = Vec::new();
-
-    let sd_persister = FsPersister::new(&ROOT_STORE, Some(8));
-    let initial_allowlist = match sd_persister.get_node_allowlist(node_id) {
-        Ok(al) => al,
-        Err(_) => {
-            log::warn!("no allowlist found in fs persister!");
-            Vec::new()
+    let _ = fs_persister.enter();
+    let initial_allowlist = match fs_persister.get_nodes() {
+        Ok(ns) => {
+            if !ns.is_empty() {
+                match fs_persister.get_node_allowlist(&node_id) {
+                    Ok(al) => al,
+                    Err(_) => {
+                        log::warn!("no allowlist found in fs persister!");
+                        Vec::new()
+                    }
+                }
+            } else {
+                Vec::new()
+            }
         }
+        Err(_) => Vec::new(),
     };
+    let _ = fs_persister.prepare();
+    let _ = fs_persister.commit();
 
-    let lss_persister = ThreadMemoPersister {};
-    let persister = Arc::new(BackupPersister::new(sd_persister, lss_persister));
+    let persister = Arc::new(fs_persister);
 
     // initialize the RootHandler
     let (rhb, approver) = sphinx_signer::root::builder(