diff --git a/plugins/libplugin-pay.c b/plugins/libplugin-pay.c
index 53e883bc9..0a788974c 100644
--- a/plugins/libplugin-pay.c
+++ b/plugins/libplugin-pay.c
@@ -20,15 +20,14 @@ struct payment *payment_new(tal_t *ctx, struct command *cmd,
 	p->cmd = cmd;
 	p->start_time = time_now();
 	p->result = NULL;
-	p->getroute_cltv = DEFAULT_FINAL_CLTV_DELTA;
 	p->why = NULL;
+	p->getroute = tal(p, struct getroute_request);
 
 	/* Copy over the relevant pieces of information. */
 	if (parent != NULL) {
 		assert(cmd == NULL);
 		tal_arr_expand(&parent->children, p);
-		p->destination = p->getroute_destination = parent->destination;
-		p->getroute_cltv = parent->getroute_cltv;
+		p->destination = parent->destination;
 		p->amount = parent->amount;
 		p->payment_hash = parent->payment_hash;
 		p->partid = payment_root(p->parent)->next_partid++;
@@ -151,9 +150,20 @@ static struct command_result *payment_getinfo_success(struct command *cmd,
 
 void payment_start(struct payment *p)
 {
+	struct payment *root = payment_root(p);
 	p->step = PAYMENT_STEP_INITIALIZED;
 	p->current_modifier = -1;
 
+	/* Pre-generate the getroute request, so modifiers can have their say,
+	 * before we actually call `getroute` */
+	p->getroute->destination = p->destination;
+	p->getroute->max_hops = ROUTING_MAX_HOPS;
+	if (root->invoice != NULL && root->invoice->min_final_cltv_expiry != 0)
+		p->getroute->cltv = root->invoice->min_final_cltv_expiry;
+	else
+		p->getroute->cltv = DEFAULT_FINAL_CLTV_DELTA;
+	p->getroute->amount = p->amount;
+
 	/* TODO If this is not the root, we can actually skip the getinfo call
 	 * and just reuse the parent's value. */
 	send_outreq(p->plugin,
@@ -290,10 +300,11 @@ static void payment_getroute(struct payment *p)
 	req = jsonrpc_request_start(p->plugin, NULL, "getroute",
 				    payment_getroute_result,
 				    payment_getroute_error, p);
-	json_add_node_id(req->js, "id", p->getroute_destination);
-	json_add_amount_msat_only(req->js, "msatoshi", p->amount);
+	json_add_node_id(req->js, "id", p->getroute->destination);
+	json_add_amount_msat_only(req->js, "msatoshi", p->getroute->amount);
 	json_add_num(req->js, "riskfactor", 1);
-	json_add_num(req->js, "cltv", p->getroute_cltv);
+	json_add_num(req->js, "cltv", p->getroute->cltv);
+	json_add_num(req->js, "maxhops", p->getroute->max_hops);
 	payment_getroute_add_excludes(p, req->js);
 	send_outreq(p->plugin, req);
 }
diff --git a/plugins/libplugin-pay.h b/plugins/libplugin-pay.h
index 5e97c2d90..249ddb034 100644
--- a/plugins/libplugin-pay.h
+++ b/plugins/libplugin-pay.h
@@ -144,6 +144,13 @@ struct payment_tree_result {
 	struct payment_result *failure;
 };
 
+struct getroute_request {
+	struct node_id *destination;
+	struct amount_msat amount;
+	u32 cltv;
+	u32 max_hops;
+};
+
 struct payment {
 	/* The command that triggered this payment. Only set for the root
 	 * payment. */
@@ -172,9 +179,8 @@ struct payment {
 
 	/* Destination we should ask `getroute` for. This might differ from
 	 * the above destination if we use rendez-vous routing of blinded
-	 * paths to amend the route later in a mixin. */
-	struct node_id  *getroute_destination;
-	u32 getroute_cltv;
+	 * paths amend the route later in a mixin. */
+	struct getroute_request *getroute;
 
 	struct createonion_request *createonion_request;
 	struct createonion_response *createonion_response;
diff --git a/plugins/pay.c b/plugins/pay.c
index c6f6318c2..804d42768 100644
--- a/plugins/pay.c
+++ b/plugins/pay.c
@@ -1890,7 +1890,7 @@ static struct command_result *json_paymod(struct command *cmd,
 	p->local_id = &my_id;
 	p->json_buffer = tal_steal(p, buf);
 	p->json_toks = params;
-	p->destination = p->getroute_destination = &b11->receiver_id;
+	p->destination = &b11->receiver_id;
 	p->payment_hash = tal_dup(p, struct sha256, &b11->payment_hash);
 	p->payment_secret = b11->payment_secret
 				? tal_dup(p, struct secret, b11->payment_secret)